21.3.10

you asked about Mark 12

First Thanks for your explanation. I really love Baha'i faith. When I read Bible today about ressurection I saw Mark 12/18-27. and I think it talks about phisical ressurection. what you think?





In Mark 12 Jesus was asked a question about a woman who had 7 husbands when she was alive. After she died and went to heaven, Jesus was asked which of these 7 men would be her lawful husband.

Jesus explained that in heaven men & women do not marry, they do not have sex and they do not have children.... since they now are spirit (original Greek: PNEUMA) like the angels.

This answer is consistent with Paul's explanation in 1 Corinthians 15 where he explains what kind of bodies people have after they have died and have been raised. Paul says that here on earth people have a body of flesh & blood & bone (original Greek: PSEUCHE) and after they die they are resurrected with a body made of spirit. (original Greek: PNEUMATIKOS SOMA)

The original Greek word translated as "resurrection" is ANA-STASIS. ANA means to rise up or to do again. STASIS is a fixed position.

In other words, while some people translate ANA-STASIS as "resurrection", it might be just as accurate to translate it as "afterlife". The regular earthly body dies and returns to the earth while the incorruptable resurrection body... the heavenly, spirit body lives on.

Looking at Mark 12 again and the woman with 7 husbands.... Jesus said:
When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels -Mark 12:25

Paul explained that the angels are spirits:
And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits (PNEUMA), and his ministers a flame of fire. -Hebrews 1:7

In other words...in the afterlife people will be like the angels... who are spirits.

and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God's children, since they are children of the resurrection. Luke 20:36

Since they are now spirits they can no longer die.

Paul further explains that when we die, our spirits leave our bodies & go to heaven...
we know that if the earthly tent (here we live in a tent) we live in is destroyed, we have a building (in heaven we will have a mansion) from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands.
Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body(original Greek: SOMA= body) we are away from the Lord. We live by faith, not by sight (by what we can see). We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. -2 Corinthians

This explanation is consistent with Baha'u'llah's explanation of life after death...
"And now concerning thy question regarding the soul of man and its survival after death. Know thou of a truth that the soul, after its separation from the body, will continue to progress until it attaineth the presence of God, in a state and condition which neither the revolution of ages and centuries, nor the changes and chances of this world, can alter.

It will endure as long as the Kingdom of God, His sovereignty, His dominion and power will endure. It will manifest the signs of God and His attributes, and will reveal His loving kindness and bounty. The movement of My Pen is stilled when it attempteth to befittingly describe the loftiness and glory of so exalted a station. The honor with which the Hand of Mercy will invest the soul is such as no tongue can adequately reveal, nor any other earthly agency describe.

Blessed is the soul which, at the hour of its separation from the body, is sanctified from the vain imaginings of the peoples of the world. Such a soul liveth and moveth in accordance with the Will of its Creator, and entereth the all-highest Paradise.

The Maids of Heaven, inmates of the loftiest mansions, will circle around it, and the Prophets of God and His chosen ones will seek its companionship. With them that soul will freely converse, and will recount unto them that which it hath been made to endure in the path of God, the Lord of all worlds. If any man be told that which hath been ordained for such a soul in the worlds of God, the Lord of the throne on high and of earth below, his whole being will instantly blaze out in his great longing to attain that most exalted, that sanctified and resplendent station...
(Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 155)

In answer to your question about Mark 12, Jesus was not talking about a physical resurrection of fleshly bodies. Instead he was talking about the afterlife where our souls continue to exist in spirit bodies. Would you please share this email with your Turkish Baha'i friends. -Joel in Florida USA
 REPLY BY JOEL SMITH

19.2.10

DROIT DE REPONSE

Bahá’ís deplore portrayal of their Faith in new tv series on government-owned
Iranian national network
GENEVA – BWNS – 12 February 2010 - Bahá’ís deeply deplore the malicious portrayals of
Bahá’u’lláh and the Báb, the Twin Prophet Founders of the Bahá’í Faith, in a new national
Iranian television network series. The characterizations degrade, ridicule, and insult these
Central Figures of the Bahá’í Faith, Who are revered by Bahá’ís worldwide. The broadcast of
this series is all the more lamentable in the face of the government’s loud denunciation of
religious defamation in international forums.
The series, titled “Salhaye Mashrooteh” (“The Years of the Constitutional Revolution”), began
on 1 February to coincide with the beginning of the ten-day celebration in Iran of the
anniversary of the Islamic revolution, is being aired daily and will conclude on 15 February.
It purports to present a factual historical account of Iran’s “Constitutional Revolution” in the
late 19th-early 20th centuries, a period which coincides with the establishment of the Bahá’í
Faith in that country. The programs purvey timeworn and wholly unfounded allegations that
the Bahá’í Faith was created by British imperialists as an anti-Islamic movement.
This current national network television series is only the most recent occurrence in an
unremitting and systematic campaign of propaganda against the Bahá’í Faith by the government
of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The campaign has utilized all forms of state-controlled mass
media to incite hatred and, suspicion against the Bahá’ís throughout the country by flagrantly
misrepresenting, denigrating, and distorting the history and teachings of the Bahá’í Faith.
Iranians eager to learn the truth have no easy access to accurate information about the Bahá’í
Faith, as Bahá’ís in Iran are utterly denied the opportunity to correct the slander that is being
promulgated by the authorities. Moreover, the mass media is so strictly controlled that even the
mere publication of a photograph of the Bahá’í Temple in India in conjunction with an article
promoting tourism to that country resulted in the immediate, albeit temporary, closure of the
newspaper concerned.
Bahá’ís call upon their well-wishers to join them in seeking to counteract the falsehoods being
spread by the government through wide circulation of accurate information about the Faith’s
teachings. For those eager to assist in this process, the book titled “Tolouie Digar” and posted
at: http://www.aeenebahai.org/node/835 and in audio version at
http://www.aeenebahai.org/node/616, is offered as a reliable resource.


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بهائيان از تصىير ارائه شده از آئيه بهائى در يک مجمىعۀ تازة تلىيسيىوى در شبكۀ وابسته به حكىمت
ايران آزرده اود
ژ طز ئض خبز جايغۀ ج آ ب آئ ٢٤ ب ١٣٨٨ ( ١٣ ف رٕي ٢٠١٠ )
اًَيغ چ زٓ ا ي اس دضزت ب آء الله دضزت باب، يؤطظي آئي ب آئ ،ٗ در يک يج ػًٕۀ تاسۀ ته يٕشي در
ايزا ،ٌ جايؼۀ ب آئ را ػ يًقاً يتأثز كزد اطت. در اي بز اَي اْ تص يٕز ت يْٕ آييش تذقيزك ذُُ اس ب يُا گَذارا آئي ب آئ ،ٗ ك ي رٕد ادتزاو ب آئيا در طزاطز ج آ ظْت ذُ، ارائ ي ػ دٕ. دردانی ک دک يٕت ايزا در صذُّ اْی
بيٍ ان هًهی، خ دٕ اس ج هً فؼالا يؼتزضي ػهي ت يْٕ ب يقذ ا صت دي یُ اطت، ت يٓ پخغ اي يج ػًٕ اس طزف
رطاَّ ای أبظت ب د نٔت خجانت آ رٔ اطت.
ك اس »ّ طال اْ يؼز طٔ « اًَيغ ر سٔا ۀَ اي يج ػًٕ با ػ إُ ١٢ ب شًْيا با ػز عٔ د ۀْ فجز، طانگزد ا قَلاب
اطلاي ،ٗ آغاس ػذ اس قزار يؼه وٕ تا ٢٥ ب اداي خ إ ذْ داػت.
اي بز اَي يذػ ارائۀ ر أيت تاريخ يظت ذُ اس ا قَلاب يؼز طٔ در ا أخز قز سَٕد ىْ ا أئم قز بيظتى اطت،
د رٔا ك يصادف با طال اْ آغاسي آئي ب آئ در ايزا ب دٕ اطت. يذ رٕ اي بز اَي ات آيات كايلاً ب پاي خَ
اًَئ اطت ك آئي ب آئ را پزداختۀ طياطت اطتؼ اًر ا نَ گيض بزا يقابهۀ با اطلاو و دا ذَ.
اي اًَيغ تاسۀ ته يٕشي ت آُ بخؼ اس بز اَيۀ تبهيغات ر ػٔ ذًُ ر ب گظتزع دك يٕت ج رًٕٓ اطلاي ايزا ػهي آئي ب آئ اطت. در جزيا اي تبهيغات ت اًو رطا اْ تذت ظَارت د نٔت با جؼم آػكار تاريخ آي سٕ اْ ب آئ ،ٗ ب اػاػۀ فَزت ط ءٕظ ظَبت ب ب آئيا داي ي س ذَُ.
ب آئيا در ايزا اس دق پاطخگ ئٕ اصلاح اي اػتبا اْت يذز ؤ ا ذَ. رطا اْ ػ يًٕ در داخم کؼ رٕ چ اُ تذت
ظَارت ا ذَ ك ت آُ ا تَؼار ػكض يؼبذ ب آئ در دٍْ طٔتا در يک آگ گزدػگز در آ كؼ رٕ باػث تؼطيمِ، زْچ ذُ
ي قٕتِ، ر سٔ اَي ا ػذ ك آگ را ي تُؼز كزد ب دٕ. ب اُبزاي ايزا يَا ػلاقّ ي ذُ دطتزطی آطا ب اطلاػات صذيخ دربارۀ
آئي ب آئی ذَار ذَ.
جايؼۀ ب آئ اس د طٔتا خيزا ذَيؼا خ دٕ دػ تٕ ي ك ذُ ك در ص رٕت ايکا اس را ا تَؼار اطلاػات درطت در بارۀ
تاريخ آئي ب آئ آ آَ را در يقابه با جؼهيات ك دك يٕت ايزا ي تُؼز ي ك ذُ يار د ذُْ. بزا كظا ك يايم ب ك كً در اي سيي باػ ذُ جش ۀٔ "طه ػٕ ديگز" در ؼَا اي تُز تَ http://www.aeenebahai9.info/node/835 ظَخۀ
ص تٕ آ در http://www.aeenebahai9.info/node/616 ي ت إ ذَ يأخذ قابم اػت اًد باػذ.
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بهائيان از تصىير ارائه شده از آئيه بهائى در يک مجمىعۀ تازة تلىيسيىوى در شبكۀ وابسته به حكىمت
ايران آزرده اود
ژ طز ئض خبز جايغۀ ج آ ب آئ ٢٤ ب ١٣٨٨ ( ١٣ ف رٕي ٢٠١٠ )
اًَيغ چ زٓ ا ي اس دضزت ب آء الله دضزت باب، يؤطظي آئي ب آئ ،ٗ در يک يج ػًٕۀ تاسۀ ته يٕشي در
ايزا ،ٌ جايؼۀ ب آئ را ػ يًقاً يتأثز كزد اطت. در اي بز اَي اْ تص يٕز ت يْٕ آييش تذقيزك ذُُ اس ب يُا گَذارا آئي ب آئ ،ٗ ك ي رٕد ادتزاو ب آئيا در طزاطز ج آ ظْت ذُ، ارائ ي ػ دٕ. دردانی ک دک يٕت ايزا در صذُّ اْی
بيٍ ان هًهی، خ دٕ اس ج هً فؼالا يؼتزضي ػهي ت يْٕ ب يقذ ا صت دي یُ اطت، ت يٓ پخغ اي يج ػًٕ اس طزف
رطاَّ ای أبظت ب د نٔت خجانت آ رٔ اطت.
ك اس »ّ طال اْ يؼز طٔ « اًَيغ ر سٔا ۀَ اي يج ػًٕ با ػ إُ ١٢ ب شًْيا با ػز عٔ د ۀْ فجز، طانگزد ا قَلاب
اطلاي ،ٗ آغاس ػذ اس قزار يؼه وٕ تا ٢٥ ب اداي خ إ ذْ داػت.
اي بز اَي يذػ ارائۀ ر أيت تاريخ يظت ذُ اس ا قَلاب يؼز طٔ در ا أخز قز سَٕد ىْ ا أئم قز بيظتى اطت،
د رٔا ك يصادف با طال اْ آغاسي آئي ب آئ در ايزا ب دٕ اطت. يذ رٕ اي بز اَي ات آيات كايلاً ب پاي خَ
اًَئ اطت ك آئي ب آئ را پزداختۀ طياطت اطتؼ اًر ا نَ گيض بزا يقابهۀ با اطلاو و دا ذَ.
اي اًَيغ تاسۀ ته يٕشي ت آُ بخؼ اس بز اَيۀ تبهيغات ر ػٔ ذًُ ر ب گظتزع دك يٕت ج رًٕٓ اطلاي ايزا ػهي آئي ب آئ اطت. در جزيا اي تبهيغات ت اًو رطا اْ تذت ظَارت د نٔت با جؼم آػكار تاريخ آي سٕ اْ ب آئ ،ٗ ب اػاػۀ فَزت ط ءٕظ ظَبت ب ب آئيا داي ي س ذَُ.
ب آئيا در ايزا اس دق پاطخگ ئٕ اصلاح اي اػتبا اْت يذز ؤ ا ذَ. رطا اْ ػ يًٕ در داخم کؼ رٕ چ اُ تذت
ظَارت ا ذَ ك ت آُ ا تَؼار ػكض يؼبذ ب آئ در دٍْ طٔتا در يک آگ گزدػگز در آ كؼ رٕ باػث تؼطيمِ، زْچ ذُ
ي قٕتِ، ر سٔ اَي ا ػذ ك آگ را ي تُؼز كزد ب دٕ. ب اُبزاي ايزا يَا ػلاقّ ي ذُ دطتزطی آطا ب اطلاػات صذيخ دربارۀ
آئي ب آئی ذَار ذَ.
جايؼۀ ب آئ اس د طٔتا خيزا ذَيؼا خ دٕ دػ تٕ ي ك ذُ ك در ص رٕت ايکا اس را ا تَؼار اطلاػات درطت در بارۀ
تاريخ آئي ب آئ آ آَ را در يقابه با جؼهيات ك دك يٕت ايزا ي تُؼز ي ك ذُ يار د ذُْ. بزا كظا ك يايم ب ك كً در اي سيي باػ ذُ جش ۀٔ "طه ػٕ ديگز" در ؼَا اي تُز تَ http://www.aeenebahai9.info/node/835 ظَخۀ
ص تٕ آ در http://www.aeenebahai9.info/node/616 ي ت إ ذَ يأخذ قابم اػت اًد باػذ.






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Les bahá’ís déplorent la représentation de leur Foi dans une nouvelle série télévisée
diffusée sur le réseau national iranien, propriété de l'État
GENÈVE - NIB - 12 février 2010 - Les bahá’ís déplorent vivement les représentations
malveillantes de Bahá'u'lláh et du Báb, les prophètes fondateurs de la foi bahá’íe, dans une
nouvelle série télévisée sur le réseau national iranien. La représentation des personnages
dégrade, ridiculise et insulte ces figures centrales de la foi bahá’íe qui sont vénérées par les
bahá’ís dans le monde entier. La diffusion de cette série est d'autant plus déplorable, au regard
de la vive dénonciation par le gouvernement de la diffamation religieuse faite dans les forums
internationaux.
La série, intitulée « Salhaye Mashrooteh » (Les années de la révolution constitutionnelle),
commencée le 1er février pour coïncider avec le début, en Iran, des dix jours de célébration de
l'anniversaire de la révolution islamique, est diffusée quotidiennement et se terminera le 15
février.
Celle-ci prétend présenter un récit réel et historique de la « révolution constitutionnelle » de
l'Iran vers la fin du 19ème et le début du 20ème siècle, une période qui coïncide avec
l'établissement de la foi bahá’íe dans ce pays. Le programme fournit des allégations maintes et
maintes fois utilisées et totalement infondées, selon lesquelles la foi bahá’íe a été créée par les
impérialistes britanniques en tant que mouvement anti-islamique.
Cette série actuelle du réseau national de télévision n’est que l’événement le plus récent d’une
campagne ininterrompue et systématique de propagande contre la foi bahá’íe par le
gouvernement de la République islamique d’Iran. Cette campagne a utilisé toutes les formes de
mass medias contrôlés par l’État pour inciter à la haine et aux soupçons envers les bahá’ís dans
tout le pays, en dénaturant de façon flagrante, en dénigrant, et en déformant l'histoire et les
enseignements de la foi bahá’íe.
Les Iraniens désireux d'apprendre la vérité n'ont pas facilement accès à une information précise
sur la foi bahá’íe, car l'occasion est refusée aux bahá’ís en Iran de corriger la calomnie répandue
par les autorités. D'ailleurs, les mass medias sont tellement strictement contrôlés que la seule
publication d'une photographie du temple baha’i en Inde, conjointement avec un article
promouvant le tourisme dans ce pays, a eu comme conséquence la fermeture immédiate,
quoique provisoire, du journal concerné.
Les bahá’ís invitent leurs sympathisants à les rejoindre dans leur tentative pour contrecarrer les
mensonges propagés par le gouvernement, via une vaste circulation d'informations précises sur
les enseignements de la Foi. Pour ceux qui sont désireux d’aider à ce processus, le livre intitulé
« Tolouie Digar » et signalé à : http://www.aeenebahai.org/node/835 et dans sa version audio à
http://www.aeenebahai.org/node/616, est proposé comme une ressource fiable.


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